The Call: How Access Was Given
Once the HGH situation came to light, a group call was held where Lady KaKa was questioned directly about how Ziass gained access to her accounts.
What emerges is not a technical explanation, but a human one.
According to a tearful KaKa, the access was not hacked, it was given. She says Ziass approached her claiming his partners, Buddah and Rugger, were acting suspiciously and potentially taking money from the group buys.
“He told me Ruger and Buddha were suspicious… that they might take the money.”
He framed himself as under pressure, unable to trust those around him.
“He shared many of his anxieties… said people were deceiving him… he didn’t know who else to trust.”
At first, she refused.
“Honestly, my first response was rejection.”
But he persisted, returning repeatedly with the same story.
“He kept coming back to it… always with the same sad story.”
Eventually, she gave in.
“I told myself I was helping someone who genuinely needed help… I trusted him too much.”
What That Access Meant
Once access was granted, Ziass used her accounts, including Discord and WhatsApp, to communicate with buyers, not as himself, but as her.
“He was using my account… to send his wallet.”
Buyers believed they were dealing with a trusted vendor but in reality, they were sending funds directly to Ziass.
“Our company wallet never received any money… everything was in his hands.”
The Question That Doesn’t Go Away
One point is raised repeatedly, and never resolved. If Buddah and Rugger were going to send the money to KaKa anyway…then why was giving Ziass access necessary at all?
It’s a question that cuts through the explanation. Because the logic doesn’t hold cleanly.
Responsibility vs Intent
KaKa presents herself as a victim of manipulation:
“I was naive… I trusted him too much… I didn’t receive a penny.”
Others don’t necessarily dispute that, but they push back on responsibility:
“You gave him access to your accounts… that has consequences.”
This becomes the central tension. She did not receive the funds, but her account enabled their movement. For buyers, that distinction doesn’t change the outcome.
The Technical Gap
As the call continues, another issue emerges.
Participants question whether the explanation makes sense technically, particularly around WhatsApp access.
“That’s not how WhatsApp works… it doesn’t make sense.”
This introduces a second layer of doubt, not just why access was given, but how it was actually used.
This is the part KaKa was not able to clearly explain.
Responsibility, Accountability, and a System Being Rewritten
The tone then shifts, from explanation to accountability.
“Those two things can be true… and it still doesn’t change the fact that you were negligent.”
KaKa maintains she never received any money. Others accept that, but argue that it doesn’t remove responsibility, because her account was still the point through which the money moved.
The Immediate Response
In response, KaKa outlines changes going forward that all passwords will be changed, payment instructions will be posted publicly, future group buys will route funds through organisers, only a single payment will be sent to the company. And crucially:
“Currently I don’t trust anyone.”
This isn’t just a fix, it’s an admission that the system relied entirely on trust, and that trust had already failed.
The Breakdown
From here, the call begins to fragment and the tone escalates:
“Who the f*** are you?
“Can you please shut the f*** up?”
What follows is not resolution, but escalation. Buddah pushes back, arguing that deadlines weren’t manipulated, the group buy was being closed and there was no intent to scam. He also raises a key contradiction:
If they intended to scam, why involve KaKa at all?
A Fractured Narrative
According to Buddah, Ziass had access to order forms, he could see incoming payments, knew what was being sent and misrepresented this to KaKa:
“He saw the entire order… he saw how much money we sent… the vendor was actually him the entire time.”
If accurate, this suggests, not just access being exploited, but information being used to construct a false narrative
Tracking Z and the Push for Recovery
After Olympus was deleted, a new server, “Tracking Z” (later renamed Lift), was created. Its purpose was to track Ziass, apply pressure for funds to be returned and coordinate information between affected buyers. At this stage, the focus shifted from prevention to recovery.
New Information and Emerging Claims
Once my initial post went live, more people began speaking up and additional threads emerged, not all consistent.
Amy (Legend rep) was also brought in and she maintains that she was unaware Ziass was running a group buy through Aimi, she had no customer contact details to intervene, she only became aware after Aimi disappeared. Her DMs with Ziass show that he initially engaged directly with her but ultimately chose to go through Aimi. That decision becomes critical as later screenshots show that the prices Ziass paid were below production cost and Amy’s conclusion was that Aimi must have scammed him. If correct, the oils GB may have been compromised from the moment funds were sent.
Early Recovery Signals
There is no single confirmed figure for the total size of GB #1. $60K is widely quoted but confirmed screenshots show, $ 29,540 (USA portion), $16,122 (additional transfer). Amy/Ziass DMs suggest total orders exceeding $45K. There are also claims of Aimi controlled wallets holding $400K to $500K. Unverified, but widely discussed.
Screenshots of Ziass’s wallets showed, $95,000, $2,900, $1,300. What those balances represent remains unclear.
Escalation: Doxxing and Pressure
As frustration grew, the situation escalated beyond money. Reports emerged that people attempted to identify Ziass in real life, his home address, gym, and work details were found and concerns were raised about family safety
One claim suggests that funds were only returned after his identity was uncovered. Whether fully accurate or not, it shows how far things escalated.
Expanding Fallout
Further claims included, bans from recovery servers, accusations of internal doxxing, information being shared in anger. At this point, the situation shifts from financial collapse to full community breakdown
Latest Update (3 April)
According to the most recent update ~76% of funds have been returned and refunds are being processed through Rugger and others. The H36 (HGH GB) is close to fully refunded and from the Oil GB, participants received only $ 35 shipping/testing compensation
My Take on All This
There are still too many things here that do not add up. Too much remains unanswered, and too many of the key people at the centre of this either disappeared, contradicted themselves, or gave explanations that do not fully hold up.
Personally, I think there is far more to the GB #1 / Aimi side of this story than Amy from Legend is willing to admit. I find it very hard to believe that Aimi simply ran off with that amount of money and that the situation is as straightforward as it has sometimes been presented. I also saw a screenshot claiming that Aimi said she would ship the first packaged but then disappeared again, which only adds another layer of confusion rather than clarity.
Lady KaKa, meanwhile, consistently dodged the question of how she technically allowed Ziass access to her accounts. That was one of the most important questions in the entire fallout, and it never felt properly answered. In my view, not enough focus was placed on her role and responsibility as the vendor whose accounts were ultimately used to facilitate the HGH scam.
Instead, much of the aftermath became centred around specific people, personal conflict, emotional reactions, and shifting blame. Some of that was inevitable. But it also meant that attention was pulled away from the bigger structural failures and the unresolved questions that actually mattered.
If you missed part 1; link below
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