This interview took place in February 2025 and was one of the first vendor interviews I ever did. Back then, I had more time to make them personal and considerably less interest in keeping them business like, which probably explains why this one includes crypto, cats and an interrogation about Bionaut. Uther was still relatively new to the scene and, for anyone unfamiliar with the backstory, there was considerable suspicion around Enzo and who was really behind the company. A few people thought I’d been too harsh on him. When I asked him directly whether I’d gone too far, he seemed confused by the question and replied:
“Why? Isn’t this a normal conversation?”
Sadly, we’re not in touch anymore. Uther is no longer a fresh faced new vendor on the scene needing to prove himself and he has a slick business going with many employees and little time for anyone else. And as is so often the case, especially when money is involved, things change. That doesn’t alter what was said during the interview or the result I later received, but it’s important context.
Uther itself has also developed considerably. Its product range, website and wider operation are very different today, so this should be read as a snapshot of Uther at the beginning of 2025, not a description of the company as it currently operates.
I also have no desire to repost dozens of old WhatsApp screenshots, complete with Enzo’s phone number, so I’ve turned the original conversation into a proper written interview. His answers have been lightly tidied where translation made them difficult to read, but their meaning hasn’t been changed.
Back in February 2025, I’d been planning to try Uther when someone told me his tirzepatide was really good and had tested above 99.9%. FOMO immediately took control of the situation and I contacted Enzo. His price list included most of the common peptides without extending to everything minus the kitchen sink. Unfortunately, my favourite T15 was missing, so I had to settle for T30. The price was lower than my usual suppliers, although not quite as cheap as I’d expected. Price comparisons have never been my strongest subject, but I would have called it roughly average. Delivery to the UK was quoted at $40 with an estimated arrival time of seven to twelve days. Payment was by crypto or bank transfer, with no PayPal available. Then I asked what Uther guaranteed for purity and quantity.
Enzo: Janoshik 99+ and more than 30mg.
Short, confident and requiring absolutely no unnecessary words.
There was no report for the new T30 batch because the previous one had sold out. Enzo said the replacement batch was on its way to Janoshik and I could wait approximately fifteen days for the result. Unfortunately, I wanted the Tirz immediately. Patience has never been one of my most reliable qualities, and I intended to test it myself anyway. Most vendors I bought from seemed to end up relying on my COA rather than the other way around.
Poor Enzo Was Not Prepared
Enzo didn’t quite know he was about to receive the full third degree. Nor did he appear to know who I was, which was probably fortunate for both of us. I began gently.
Me: I heard you have your own workshop. Do you buy the raw materials?
Enzo: Yes.
Me: Do you perform the lyophilisation? Everyone says they have a factory. Do you have any proof?
Enzo: I’m not in charge of production.
Me: Who is in charge?
Enzo: Production personnel are responsible for production.
Well, that was me told. Deciding that the inner workings of the factory were getting me nowhere, I returned to something I understood better: boxes, labels and vial caps. Enzo sent photographs of GLOW products and trays of black-capped T30. The pictures proved that Uther possessed boxes, labels and vials. Unfortunately, I couldn’t see a factory hiding behind any of them. The labels also gave me no clue as to whether Enzo belonged to the dreaded “vail” brigade, so I had to investigate that too.
Me: Which spelling is correct, vail or vial?
Enzo: What does that mean? Vials? I often spell it this way. I don’t know if it’s right.
I explained that this wasn’t a joke. I simply needed to know whether he belonged to the people who write “vails.” It appeared he didn’t. Phew. At least one part of the investigation had produced a satisfactory answer.
Why Did Everyone Think Uther Was a Scam?
When Uther first appeared, there was plenty of suspicion around the company. I will admit that I bought into some of it myself, although I never followed the entire drama.
Me: When you first appeared, everyone seemed to think you were a scammer. Why?
Enzo: I don’t know. Maybe the price was too low. My original prices seemed to shock everyone.
Enzo described Uther as a factory-direct seller with no middleman. According to him, other traders warned him when he entered the community and asked him to change his prices.
Me: They wanted you to increase them?
Enzo: Yes. In the end, I improved, and they seemed to cut their prices.
In this case, “improved” apparently meant increased. Enzo raised his prices, everyone else lowered theirs and harmony was restored to the peptide market.
The Highly Scientific FEELS Test
Price wasn’t my main concern. I wanted to know whether Uther’s Tirz was actually any good.
Me: I’m more interested in the quality. Will your tirzepatide be better than what I currently use or the branded product?
Enzo: It should be almost the same. There is no difference. Everyone has a test report.
I explained that laboratory reports weren’t my only method of assessment. I also had my own highly sophisticated testing equipment built directly into me.
Me: I go by “feels,” not only the test report. I have my own inbuilt Tirz tester. It needs to pass my FEELS test.
Enzo: If you need it, contact me and I’ll send it to you.
That was good enough for me, so I decided to place the order and give crypto another attempt. Forty minutes later, I was still attempting to pay.
Me: Still working on it.
Enzo: Take your time. The order has already been arranged for shipment.
He clearly had more confidence in my ability to complete the crypto transaction than I did.
The Other Crypto Incident
As we were already discussing crypto, I asked about the dispute that had apparently reached most of Discord. A customer had sent payment using the wrong blockchain. The money left the customer’s account but never reached Uther’s wallet, resulting in hours of toing and froing while both sides insisted they were correct. In reality, both statements were true: the customer had sent the money, but Enzo hadn’t received it. The translation barrier made the discussion even more painful until someone eventually stepped in and explained what had happened.
Me: Did the money ever reach your account, or was it lost?
Enzo: It didn’t arrive because the customer didn’t use the specified network. I sent the product even though I lost the crypto.
During the argument, Enzo had also briefly posted the customer’s personal information.
Me: The customer was upset when you accidentally posted their details.
Enzo: Yes. I was in a hurry. It didn’t end until six o’clock that morning, and I just went to bed.
Enzo acknowledged what had happened and said the customer still received the product despite Uther never receiving the payment. With that drama dealt with, I returned to the factory. Real factories in this market are about as common as hens’ teeth, and I still wanted a proper answer.
Factory, Workshop or Something in Between?
Me: Is it a factory or a workshop, or are they the same thing?
Enzo: I’m responsible for all the work of the factory: training employees, teaching them production, raw-material procurement, new-product development and sales.
That was rather more responsibility than his earlier answer about not being in charge of production had suggested, but I continued.
Me: How many staff do you have?
Enzo: Eight.
Me: Do you have chemists there?
Enzo: No. We produce finished products, not raw materials, without chemists.
Once again, that was me told. His answers suggested that Uther bought peptide raw materials and turned them into finished products rather than synthesising the peptides. Exactly who performed each stage, who supervised production and what qualifications anyone held remained less clear.
Apparently, asking who makes things inside a factory is more complicated than I had imagined.
Why “Pharmaceutical”?
I was also confused by Uther’s use of the word “pharmaceutical.”
Me: Why do you call yourself pharmaceutical?
Enzo: Because we used to provide pharmaceutical OEM products such as tablets, capsules and liquids.
Me: When was that?
Enzo: Six or seven years ago.
Enzo said he wasn’t claiming to be a pharmacist. He described himself as a pharmaceutical worker who’d previously been involved in producing finished medicines. When I asked for examples, he named pregabalin and exemestane. My question about whether this had been licensed medicine production didn’t receive a particularly clear answer. Every answer was creating two additional questions. This was proving to be an extremely efficient interview.
His Favourite Peptide, or Possibly His Entire Catalogue
To bring the conversation back to more familiar territory, I asked Enzo for his favourite peptide. He replied: T30, AOD, SS-31, BPC, TB4, NAD, GHK, GLOW, Biological regulators
Me: They are all your favourite?
It turned out that he thought I’d asked which products sold the most. His actual favourite was retatrutide. Enzo said he had personally used semaglutide and retatrutide and preferred retatrutide because he experienced fewer side effects. He also admitted that he’d never used most of the other products he sold. This interview was certainly educational.
The Bionaut Test
Before finishing, I asked the question I ask everyone.
Me: Are you Bionaut?
Enzo: I’m not.
That sounded suspiciously simple, so I checked again.
Me: Are you 100% sure?
Enzo: Yes. Only people with a doctoral degree or above in this field can use that word. It is not my field.
I pointed out that wearing gold gloves in the profile picture also appeared to be compulsory. That particular joke didn’t survive translation.
One Final Question
Feeling that it was probably time to draw the interrogation to a close, I sneaked in one last question.
Me: Cats or dogs?
Enzo: What does that mean?
Me: Which do you prefer, cats or dogs?
Enzo: Dogs.
Oh dear. Wrong answer. I told him I would have to send my assistant into his server and introduced him to my cat, who likes shrimp and occasionally inspects servers for me.
Enzo: Okay, no problem.
This didn’t appear to concern him at all. At least I’d warned him in case a cat suddenly appeared in his server. Now came the moment I’d actually been dreading.
Me: Have you received my crypto payment?
Enzo: Yes. Received. ❤️
Success. Crypto had finally been defeated. I thanked Enzo and told him I would leave him in peace. Royal Mail tracking arrived the following day, so all that remained was to wait.
Apparently This Was a Normal Conversation
After receiving some “feedback” about my interview technique, I decided to check whether Enzo was still speaking to me.
Me: They think I was too hard on you.
Enzo: Why? Isn’t this a normal conversation?
Me: It is for me. Apparently not for them.
Luckily, I remained in his server. For now.
Four Days From China
I ordered the T30 on Wednesday evening. Four days later, it was already in my possession. I hadn’t even started obsessively checking the tracking because I assumed it would take considerably longer. Enzo confirmed that Uther didn’t have a UK warehouse.
Me: I’ve never received one this quickly.
Enzo: Sometimes fast, sometimes slow.
This time it was definitely fast. The package contained ten black-capped vials in a clear plastic box labelled T-30. One vial was immediately sent to Janoshik.
The Result
A vial was submitted as Uther Tirzepatide 30mg from the February 2025 black-cap batch. Janoshik reported: Quantity: 35.37mg Purity: 99.918%
Enzo’s guarantee had been “Janoshik 99+ and more than 30mg.” On this particular vial, Uther delivered exactly what it had promised, and another 5.37mg on top. It was an excellent result for the product I received.
So the final score was:
Crypto payment: eventually completed
Delivery: unexpectedly rapid
Quantity: comfortably overfilled
Purity: above 99.9%
Spelling of vial: passed
Bionaut test: denied
Cats or dogs: catastrophic failure
Factory interrogation: further questions remain
Enzo survived the third degree, the T30 passed the laboratory test and my cat wasn’t required to enter his server.
Summary
I’m grateful to Uther for agreeing to participate in my third degree. Enzo was definitely a laugh back then, and he’s clearly made a success of Uther as one of the few vendors with an actual fill-finish operation. The irony is that many of the people bad-mouthing him when he first appeared are now among his best customers. It also shows how quickly times change. Uther entered the scene as one of the cheapest vendors and is now one of, if not the, most expensive. For anyone interested in Uther’s full backstory and what all the early suspicion was about, I have an article on it linked below.
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